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DOROTHY Forum Supporter


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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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WoAH what a heated discussion!!! Been following for a while.
I voted no and am not striking, its been a difficult decision for me (like many others) because I do agree we should all stick together, however there were too many other compelling factors and so I (along with most of my school) have decided not to strike. I am not a scab (or anything else some may choose to call me), my decision has been made with the children and schools best interest in mind.
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clucky Teachers Pet


Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 269 Location: wiltshire
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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My update is ....
The three of us in the union have decided to strike next week!
We all had a long chat over a bottle last night and decided that we would want the unions support if we needed them so we should do it when they need us.
Decision told to head today and she said we had done the right thing as she would if it was her union! |
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Tiki Moderator


Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 25733 Location: Aspiring to inspire before I expire
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bubblesdream Top poster


Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 1214 Location: Comfy in my dressing gown!!
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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One of the good things about this forum is that we can say what we think without upsetting anyone. We're all adult enough to know that nothing we say should be taken personally.
I for one know that sometimes it's hard to write what I actually mean and find that what I've written can be taken two ways.
I have on more than one occasion thought I should add this to my siggy.
I'm hereby apologising in advance for any statement I might make that might upset anyone.  _________________ Accept that some days you are the pigeon and some days the statue
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bubblesdream Top poster


Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 1214 Location: Comfy in my dressing gown!!
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catbells Forum Supporter


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 4362 Location: South Yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: |
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its obviously on my mind because i dreamt about crossing picket lines last night!
i wish our school had the support of the Head. I wish she would support her staff full stop.
i know that deep down i'm in 2 minds about this strike. though it probably doesnt come across as that.
I'm not normally a selfish kind of person and i know that as i've already said i would want the support of the union should i ever need it and therefore its a 2 way thing and they need my support now.
But i honestly cant see the point of it when i dont think the Government will give in. Making a point yes - but then only if enough ppl strike. and then if there are more strikes planned for the Autumn - we stand to lose a fair bit of money.
and in our household at the moment there is always more month than money left. not because we are extravagant but because OH was mde redundant again 3 years ago and had to take a job which paid 1/2 a K less a month.
nothing is ever black and white.
i suppose i'm cross because it isnt... - not with you ppl.
Catbells x _________________ We have nothing to fear in failure; to fail we must have been brave enough to try. |
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susie CPD monitor


Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 2121 Location: Wondering
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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To be honest I think a work to rule might be more effective and get more notice. At the moment we are doing a lot of extra hours for which we are not paid. We are told there is no money, but still asked to go in early or work late. We do it because we want to support both teachers and children but it is wearing a little thin and if we all stuck to our paid hours then things would start to fall apart very quickly. |
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johns Class monitor


Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 80 Location: super leeds
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: strike |
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As some previous posts have stated we live in a democracy, true, does that give me the option to opt-out of any legislation I do not agree with or find a little finacially awkward, no it doesn't, I have to abide by the wishes of that majority, however small it maybe. As for people who break the strike not being scabs, try telling my neighbours that. I live in a pit village in the north of England, a pit that stood solid for over a year during the miners strike. My father lost his job as a certain women tried to destroy the working classes, just as Gordon continues Tony's attacks. Strike breakers are scabs. |
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dancingqueen Moderator


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johns Class monitor


Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 80 Location: super leeds
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: strike |
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dancing queen, if you mean you are on holiday then you can still be on strike, just inform Payroll or if you wish you could donate some of your two days pay to the strike fund to help others. If you mean you have left education then just support us in thoughts. Refering back to scabs I wonder how many people have actually been in a trade dispute and actually realise its significance. This maybe very simplistic but I feel that there is a geographical devide between those that have and have not. Industrial disputes are part of the fabric of the areas where heavy industry used to exist. It is part of our upbringing, in the blood and therefore not taken lightly and therefore not treated flipantly. this dispute is not about you or me, it is not about the children it is stand against those who are attacking our way of life. |
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dancingqueen Moderator


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catbells Forum Supporter


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 4362 Location: South Yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: strike |
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| johns wrote: | | or if you wish you could donate some of your two days pay to the strike fund to help others. |
So the lowest paid are expected to support the lowest paid. how does that work then?
If i cant afford to strike because of the money i'll lose - why would i choose to donate the money i do earn and NEED to others.
I do that in other ways through the charities i choose to support.
And...just supposing - how would UNISON feel if i supported the strike on just one of the days?
Like Susie i think working to rule would have a greater impact.
Anyway, each to their own.
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johns Class monitor


Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 80 Location: super leeds
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: strike |
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Catbells, you quote me out of context. Read the previous post, to mine, and you will understand my post, The quote is one option open to someone who might of been on holiday during the stirke, therefore getting paid, who seemed to want to support the strike.
In response to your other question you are prepared to strike for one day, what difference will another make. Remember you can always apply to the strike hardship fund yourself. |
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catbells Forum Supporter


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 4362 Location: South Yorkshire
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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what's strike pay? though since this strike is for only 2 days there is none.
And how do 'they' determine who should benefit from the hardship fund?
i ask out of interest. i've never been part of strike action before. i expect you can tell that!
And are there going to picket lines at every school gate?
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