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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Angry Reply with quote

Last year the TMO was approached so that our office staff could do NVQ in admin. Originally I was asked if I would like to do it, but wasn't sure I would get the experience for level 5 - the level they suggested I was working at. So I pulled out.

Yesterday I had another meeting with them. They turned up with a folder asking me to sign it off so they can get me an NVQ 3 Business and Administration. All the work had been done for me, and a couple of signatures would probably change my fortune round in my job hunting.

Sadly I succumbed to the temptation. Embarassed

I showed him the door and told him to f*ck off!

I would rather struggle with my integrity intact then do that. It also annoyed me because I know how hard members here work for their NVQs. The final insult was this course was offered free because they have government funding to help raise the skills of the workforce. So not only would this qualification be meaningless but public money would have been spent on it.

And yes I am looking into reporting them.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked I'm shocked George.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shocked I'm shocked George.



I must say so am I, well done for sticking to your principles

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jack-of-all-Trades wrote:
Shocked I'm shocked George.



I must say so am I, well done for sticking to your principles


I echo what the others have said George.

I hope you've got their names. Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

was it purely evidence they had to provide George, so they just produced what you had completd within your role...or was it 'written' for you?

If it was purely evidence of your work then that would be accpetable

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked
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good for you sticking to your principles

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DQ, if it was just evidence of what I'd been doing I wouldn't have minded as much, at least then I would have been assessed on my performance.

The folder did seem to be evidence on how I applied the various principles, but none of the evidence was based on any of my experiences or how I had responded to the given situations. Someone had simply done what was necessary for me to get the certificate

The only involvement I've had was when I first filled in the forms, but when he explained that it was a expected for me to be working full time and applying what I was learning that I realised I probably wouldn't meet the requirements and pulled out.

I know I can be overopinionated at times, but for me what they did was wrong.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i were you i would get hold of the folder and keep it Confused

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That kind of practice really devalues the whole qualification process.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really admire you for sticking to your principles George. I have to be honest and admit I'm not sure what I would have done given the same circumstances. If it was a con, I would like to think I would have done the same as you. Think about the Pandora's Box of reporting them though George. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Good for you, George! clap Makes you think, though, doesn't it - how often does that happen...?! Shocked

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone.

I agree with Jaydee, it does devalue the award. Especially for those who have worked hard for it.

Beamie, what pandoras box? These people are fleecing public money for awards which have not been earned and could possibly put hard working and honest people at a disadvantage when applying for work.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree with that George, i have been told about various people getting awards/quals/status including NVQ and HLTA where evidnece has been made up or signed off for candidates

it devalues and takes away the hard work and honesty of the majority of candidates

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really don't understand the thought process of your bosses. Does this mean that they will complete test/exam papers on behalf of students? Where does it stop. Good for you for standing up for your principles (als).
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
Thanks everyone.

I agree with Jaydee, it does devalue the award. Especially for those who have worked hard for it.

Beamie, what pandoras box? These people are fleecing public money for awards which have not been earned and could possibly put hard working and honest people at a disadvantage when applying for work.


I totally agree and it stinks. I was just suggesting I hope the people you report it too are equally principled and support you, I really do.
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