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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:22 am    Post subject: What do I do? Reply with quote

I am a staff governor and have recently applied to have my level re-assessed.
I am on the committee that will discuss this?
Do I go out, do I stay and listen to what they have to say?
Didn't know it would have to go to the governing body.
Whoops!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go out when it came to that bit,just say 'excuse me I will allow you to discuss this' If they have any queries they can come and ask you.
That way if any other staff have aproblem withit you can say you weren't present also looks more Professional.Good Luck!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anything that has a direct implication on your role will require you to withdraw from the meeting so wait till it comes up on the agenda and either withdraw or your chair should ask you to do so

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the others have said you must withdraw when it comes up for discussion. But if there is a second staff governor you can ask them to state your case for you.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only thing is that I know I will be embarassed if they object to the raise saying there is no money to pay for the extra when I know that others staff have gone up in the world.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could always send in your apoligies for that meeting, they shouldnt need to speak to you about it so you shouldn't really need to be there to state your case so to speak

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

definately will think about sending my apologies for the meeting.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as you cannot be in the meeting whilst it is being discussed you may as well send your apologies, have that night off!, and await the outcome ...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kitkat,

You are techically employed by the Governors and they have to approve any changes to your pay scale. You are entitled to remain in the meeting for other agenda items, but must withdraw if they are discussing any staff request for a pay review (not just your own. The other staff governor should withdraw too) You are entitled to speak to the Governors to put your case, if you so wish and to have someone else at the meeting to speak on your behalf - your Line Manager, a colleague or a Union Rep. In my experience the Governors usually take the advice of the HT on whether or not to approve a request for pay review.

The criteria for granting a change to a salary scale is usually that you are undertaking extra responsibilities that are not in your current job description.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my line manager is the head who will be present at the meeting.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

has he accepted that you are working at that level? If so there should be no problem about the governors accepting it? Or am I being niaive?
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maizie, I don't agree that all staff governors should withdraw when the pay of one is being discussed. We have 3 staff governors, The HT, a teacher governor, and a support staff governor. We had a situation recently when 2 teachers wanted their pay revised. The teacher governor stayed away but asked for me to represent them and state their case. Looking through the laws for Governors I couldn't find anything which would stop me being able to do this. I stayed and did represent them but abstained from voting. There was no objection from any other member of the GB.

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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, we all have to withdraw if anything to do with pay & conditions of individual staff is being discussed. This, we are advised by the LEA Clerk to the Governors (who ought to know exactly what s/he is talking about), is the law.

The HT is not a staff governor, in the way that the teaching & non-teaching staff governors are. The HT is a governor because s/he is HT!

I think that you being asked to put someone's case for pay review is different - you weren't acting in your capacity as governor, but as advocate for that person. You should not have been present at the governors' subsequent discussion of the request.

Staff governors are not 'representatives'. They are governors who are able to contribute a school perspective to GB discussion and decision making.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting a bit confused.
Do you think that if I was to ask the chairman what he would like me to do would cause a problem?
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I'm sure that he would be pleased to be consulted. But I'm also sure that you'll be asked to withdraw from the meeting while it's discussed. I don't see any problem with you being at the rest of the meeting though.


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I've just reread your original post and noticed that you say it's going to committee. did you mean it will go before the whole GB or one of the sub committees. If it's the latter it will have to go before the whole GB before it can be ratified. and the smaller committe would have to be quorate before it could make a decision.

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