Have u got any children who say no to u or refuse to do as u have asked? I am getting really annoyed with a few children in the class i work with saying that to me and thinking i'm gonna listen to them!

Here's an example. Child being disruptive and not getting on with work, bothering others.. told he has a choice, either to get on with his work like all the other children are or go out the classroom for 2mins... child says no and carries on with what they r doing!!!

Just really doing my head in now as they think they can do what they like even after knowing the school rules and what is expected of them!

I have followed the behaviour policy... verbal warning, name on behaviour sheet, 2mins time out etc but it just doesnt work and they carry on!

Can anyone give me any other ideas? Just fed up with them saying no to me after i have asked them to do something!

Sorry but have to ask.... Do they behave for the teacher Smilez?? I just asked because (even young) children have been known to ignore the support workers........ I had two year 1 children once who had been told by their parents that whatever I said didn't matter!!!

I think if it continues the teacher needs to emphasize that ALL adults in the class have to be respected.

They say it to me more, i have heard them say it to the teacher, like when asked to go out of the room they say 'nooooo' in a whiney voice but do go. The teacher is v supportive and i have told her. When talking about listening to what they r being asked to do she always mentions me and called me a teacher etc...

Just getting fed up with 6 yr olds thinking they can do what they like and refusing to do as they r asked!

11 children from the other year2 class had the head teacher removing them from the classroom yesterday as they were ignoring the cover supervisor and then other teachers came in to help and some still messed about!!! Have children go no respect for their elders these days???

(sorry to moan, just had enough of it now!)

Sounds to me like the HT needs to introduce some short sharp sanctions.

When I had this I refused to help when a child asked, pointing out that it was a two way road (had agreed this with the CT first). Also made them stay in at break for how ever long they has refused me. I know it means losing your break but worth it in the long run.

Most started to comply when they realised they were going to lose out in the end. But as I say if the problem is (as it seems) you need to get your CT to get something in place by the HT.

I agree with true tell them that they have wasted x number of minuites of your time so they will have to pay back the same number of miniutes of their time.

Failing that I would speak to their parents at the end of the day about their unacceptable behaviour. That usually sorts them out!

I know how you feel Smilez it's week 3 and we're shattered and getting rude children dosen't help.

Yep I agree about being shattered

You have to be firm with these children and talking to the parents is a good idea however the discipline at home may be sadly lacking so won't work.

I had a reverse situation yesterday where I had to very loudly to a child "NO" which we are supposedly not meant to say (to negative - pc gone mad ) The reason I said no was because the child's teeth where inbedded in my hand. Comment from parent when informed by my colleague was "She was lucky"

I think smilez you have to show your children you mean business. Let them know you have authority too and dock playtime or whatever strategies you have in your school.

Don't let them get to you or it will get harder.

Enjoy a restful weekend

Ouch veggie!

I agree with true and co. I would keep them in, let them be last to go home. Reward positive behaviour and politeness. If all else fails I would send them to the (pre-warned) head and say "I'm not putting up with this behaviour." I have been known to risk saying "You might be allowed to do as you like at home but we expect you to behave at school." Reward any positive action from them. Maybe do something in circle time.

Thanx

I do keep them in during play, doesnt seem to work then. When they are refusing to get on with their work or bothering/distracting the others from their work thats one of the choices i give them e.g you've got a choice xxxxx either carry on with ur work like everybody else or miss your playtime, then i get the 'noooooooooo'!! Like i am gonna listen to them!!! I just tell them that they have had their choice and they need to think about what they should be doing. Most of the time they continue with their work but its just the fact that they have shouted 'No' at me and think that i will do as they say

I have worked with these children for over a year now and it annoys me that they havent realised what we expect from them! I explained the other day that i dont expect them to do work that i know will be too hard for them and if it is just to have a go!

Will see how next week goes and then speak to class teacher again and mention it to their parents.

Are you being too nice to them Smilez? I think I would be saying "I beg your pardon"in a very loud voice. We do occasionally shout at the children as we have loads of kids that don't have any discipline and some are out of control. Although I don't like to do it I feel sometimes it is needed. i have removed them from class and said very quietly what I expect and what I wont put up with that sometimes works especially if we mention parents ,head etc.

I do question why they have said it to me and other children in the class are v shocked that they have the nerve to say it to me too!

I have had a word with them and told them i don't expect them to argue with me and think they can tell me what to do!!!

I think its all for attention and how they cope with things at home, which they may get away with!!!

As i said before its only a couple but its quite annoying!

AAAarhh! If its for attention then I would walk past and ignore it and just reward the others later. It will be how they speak to their parents and probably get away with it.So I would just pretend for a day or even a week that they are not in school. Don't help them if the teacher agrees. Do exciting activitites but don't pick them, tell them you are picking polite well-behaved pupils. They will eventually get the message.

Yea know what u mean Jack but i do a majority of the things mentioned already. Its hard because one of the children is in the group i support so can't really ignore them, i just don't give them the attention they want, i help them with their work, praise the other 4 a lot.

I'm just gonna try and ignore it from know on as they know what i say goes, so if i say they r missing playtime or anything else they know it will happen and they can't change my mind.

I have heard a nqt mention a cloud system...she has 2 cloud pictures and yellow sunny one (with a happy face) and a grey one (sad face) and the children as well as the teacher decide where they think they should be for each day, then then write which cloud they are in on a chart and each fri the children who have been on the sunny face gets to have a tiger treat (tiger shaped bin, with a happy tiger face on it, which is filled with treats, i.e. rubbers, pencils etc etc).

Not sure if it has worked for her yet, but she was in hope the children would start to understand the effect their behaviour has on the teachers and the other children.

I have just begun using a new technique, it's effective in that you remove yourself immediately from the child and don't get into a confrontation with them. If you have given them a choice, i.e; Child talking on the carpet during introduction, you have asked the child to sit nicely and be quiet whilst the teacher is teaching, child refuses and continues disrupting. Remind the child by saying "If you choose to behave in that way whilst the teacher is talking, you will be choosing to miss x minutes from your golden time", if they continue you, I will tell the child to see me at the end of the day. At the end of the day you can speak to the child without disruption and when the parent arrives the child can explain why he or she is late out. Hope this strategy helps, it's working for me with 9 out of 10 kids at the mo.