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Lucybelle Forum Supporter


Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Posts: 341 Location: Not quite sure!
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Agree & disagree with you Catbells.
Yes we do get 14 weeks holiday a year...but we have to have our holiday in those times & pay over the odds for our holiday.
I can't afford 2 days as I have just had to take 2 days off as my kids are sick & I don't get paid for that.
I think what it is is that the majority of TA's do it for the love of the job & the money isn't that important BUT I do think we should get paid for the level of work we do and the amount of us that have trained & have proper qualifications, and this is what we want to be recognised for.
We don't just sit around waiting to be asked to do something. We are all busy all day.
If the government want TA's in the schools & wants them to train then they should pay them the relevant wage.
Also I think of people like street cleaners & bin collectors, who wants to do that. THere are many many support workers that just aren't paid enough. This strike isn't just for TA's it's for all support workers.
I think a lot of us feel guilty because it's the end of the term. It's just the timing that's wrong as well for most of us. _________________ Lucybelle |
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madmum Class monitor

Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 93 Location: searching for my sanity!
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Don't think they've thought it through when some counties will have shut for the holidays anyway.
Falls on or sports days. I think the school may function withut TAs for a day but not sure about kitchen/cleaners and midday staff!
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trueblue Moderator


Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 25766 Location: under the apple blossom
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-Star- Class monitor


Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 197 Location: over the rainbow
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Update - a list went round my school and nobody wants to go out, so... no.
That's how we do it in my school, Jack-of-all-Trades. I and various others only joined a union because the HT told us to a few years back. |
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Colourful Lady Class monitor


Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 152 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I only joined a union for the profession indemnity insurance. I also only ever join role specific unions. I'm in ATL for my TA job and am still in The Society of Radiographers, my former profession that I will soon be returning too.
I want to be sure I only ever strike for things that affect me. Would always go with the union though, actually thought it was against the rules not to strike if the union was out. Also thought is was against rules to strike if not in the union. Have I got that right?
I tend to think the work to role action can be more effective and then people realise how much you/we do above and beyond our job description. _________________ Only dead fish go with the flow! |
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Jack-of-all-Trades prefect


Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 9420 Location: england
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Yes colourful lady you are right.There was some interesting posts on TES where one person seemed very confused.
One of the problems is that some TA's in some counties are a lot worse off than other counties which is partly why I wanted people to pm me with the pay scales of their county so I could post a list.It would be interesting and also helpful to TA's moving areas or those near the border of another county/country.I know some counties pay is much higher then the area I work in but I'm sure there will be some worse off too. |
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catbells Forum Supporter


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 3644 Location: South Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| catbells wrote: | | Who else gets 14 weeks holiday a year? |
'Holiday' - as in time away from work then.
Most ppl out of education get 4-5 weeks plus statutory bank holidays.
Yes! it is pretty naff that we dont get paid for these holiday periods - but i dont think in this day and age you can have your cake and eat it.
And given that those in the know think we are heading for a recession then it makes it even more unlikely that strike action will work.
x _________________ We have nothing to fear in failure; to fail we must have been brave enough to try. |
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dancingqueen Moderator

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trueblue Moderator


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catbells Forum Supporter


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 3644 Location: South Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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and we need to stop worrying about what people think of us  |
Easier said than done that though.
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dancingqueen Moderator

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susie CPD monitor


Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 2046 Location: Wondering
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I voted not to strike and I won't be. I don't think I am paid enough for what I do but I could go elsewhere for more money so it's a choice I have made. If it was a health and safety issue that would be a different matter. The strike hasn't even been discussed in my school as only 3 of us are in the union and one of those is away at the moment. |
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bubblesdream Top poster


Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 1129 Location: Comfy in my dressing gown!!
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Jack-of-all-Trades wrote: | Yes it is it was on BBC news.
Star you do not have to be told by your Unison rep! If you voted to strike you should be out.
To be honest you should really be out anyway if your union calls you out -that is the whole point of joining one we expect their support and so should support them.I 'm sure people will accept the pay rise if we get it but if not enough people go out then we wont which is what happened last time.I am not a big union person or a Rep but I feel if we moan about not getting paid enough then we should be prepared to go out. Gets off soap-box.  |
I defo agree with you Jack. Been a lot of arguements in our school because a couple who are in union doesnt want to but neither does the rest of us and lose 2 days pay but they would take a pay rise, SHOCKING! _________________ It will be alright in the end...If it's not alright...Then It's not the end!! |
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catbells Forum Supporter


Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 3644 Location: South Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| bubblesdream wrote: | | Jack-of-all-Trades wrote: | Yes it is it was on BBC news.
Star you do not have to be told by your Unison rep! If you voted to strike you should be out.
To be honest you should really be out anyway if your union calls you out -that is the whole point of joining one we expect their support and so should support them.I 'm sure people will accept the pay rise if we get it but if not enough people go out then we wont which is what happened last time.I am not a big union person or a Rep but I feel if we moan about not getting paid enough then we should be prepared to go out. Gets off soap-box.  |
I defo agree with you Jack. Been a lot of arguements in our school because a couple who are in union doesnt want to but neither does the rest of us and lose 2 days pay but they would take a pay rise, SHOCKING! |
what is shocking is that ppl are judging one another. You choose to strike and that's fine. but surely we also have the right not to strike.
Don't we live in a democracy?
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